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Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 3:54 pm
by dave
Hal B. wrote:
steve kramer wrote: So, if you weigh 250, u can make min weight with a gallon of fuel.

So if I was to weigh, let's say, about 131, I would need more gallons of fuel?

H.(...or, more bondo)B.


They must have 100 lbs of steel plates somewhere there in the rust belt.

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 5:05 pm
by steve kramer
dave wrote:

Nope (we just checked yesterday) +5 lbs for the rears +3 lbs for the front (over the 2554's)


do we assume correctly that is per tire? I may have a weight plate sale!

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:28 pm
by dave
steve kramer wrote:
dave wrote:

Nope (we just checked yesterday) +5 lbs for the rears +3 lbs for the front (over the 2554's)


do we assume correctly that is per tire? I may have a weight plate sale!


I believe so. It wasn't scientific, Tony did it on the car scales, which probably aren't real accurate at such low weights.

Dave

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2015 7:35 pm
by dave
Now I've checked myself, and it's more like a couple pounds difference (we don't have any new GY's).

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:36 pm
by tonyrn99
I know the rears are 2lbs. heavier.

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:43 pm
by goolsbey
Steve's Post:

" 20lbs is nothing. I was 100lbs over in the Gen2, and that translated to an equal 100lbs over in the Gen3. Only the new tires made a 10lb difference, and little self weight loss helped - but being 85 over still sucks" .

The problem setting any limit is the wide range of driver weight. For example, My daughter weighs about as much as Hal. She currently drives our gen 2 car with 60 to 80 lbs of ballast depending on the track scales. I had to have several additional 10 lb plates made. How much do we want to have safely bolted on, to make Min. Not as easy as one would think when you consider the wide range of drivers.

Pat

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:03 pm
by Steve Introne
Goolsbey, valid point, but if you want to make it truly spec, give us big guys a chance to compete at the same weight, or at least closer. I just lost 40 lbs (260lbs), and now any improvement I tried to make, is now minimized. If safety is the true concern, let's develop a new way to hold weight.

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:45 pm
by enzo
I don't know the answer to this question that's why I am asking but does anyone know what an extra 100lbs of ballast would do to the handling and speed of an SRF?

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 11:08 am
by goolsbey
Steve good points. I am curious as to what other classes do, such as FE. Never drove one, but from what I see it would be pretty hard for a big guy to be comfortable in that car and on the other hand am not sure there is much space to add a significant amount of weight.

I would also think there would be problems with tall drivers, lets say 6' 4 and above as there isn't much room for your feet.

I most certainly am no expert about how adding weight would affect the handling on a gen 3 car, but as long as you have scales and get the corner weights right for the track you should be ok based on where the weights are positioned. My guess most drivers wouldn't feel the difference, but maybe the top drivers would. I am not one of those lucky drivers.


Pat

Re: Gen 3 weight

PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:32 pm
by steve kramer
Steve, if you weigh 260 you should be able to get close or to minimum. My car weighs right at 1300 dry, no plates. And it has old UCAs, butler, and bondo.